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Simon Louvaki
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:17:00 -
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Anslo wrote:So what, we got out own Provists now?
Every nation has their own Provists.
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Simon Louvaki
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Posted - 2013.02.16 02:25:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:
The SDII was approved by the Senate, its legality backed by the Supreme Court. It operates under legislative, executive and judicial oversight. In terms of legitimacy it has a lot more going for it than the CPD.
Of course, if the State hadn't sparked an unprovoked war with the Federation, such measures might not be neccessary in the first place, no?
Despite my distaste for Heth and the CPD, it WAS a result of overwhelming public support and Heth was elected by the Mega corporation's corporate Boards to the head of the State. Its not exactly like your process in the Federation, but its hardly an illegit take over (sadly, for legality and honor sake).
As for an unprovoked war. Some might consider the word of a certain Grand Admiral and the murder of hundreds of thousands of Caldari citizens and a prominent CEO enough to do the trick. Then again, few people will ever acknowledge a casus belli for their enemy.
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Simon Louvaki
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:02:00 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:[
I thought that admiral was called rogue by the Navy after the incident ?
This is true, the Federation effectively washed their hands of Noir when he did what he did, the fact remains however that the Caldari people were outraged by this and saw it was a racially motivated attack. In the aftermath, Caldari Prime burned with riots and the State reacted in retaliation by invading. Pilot Andreus has made it clear he doesn't care what anyone outside the Federation think in any case.
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Valerie Valate wrote:Who was flying it ? Clone impostor. As to who precisely the impostor was, we may never know, but whoever was inside Noir's body, it wasn't Noir.
and you persecute the religious for 'fantasies'? very mature.
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.16 17:13:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:and you persecute the religious for 'fantasies'? very mature. It's not a fantasy when one can provide evidence to back it up. Like I said, Verin explains it a lot better than me so you could go and ask him, but given your attitude I wouldn't be at all surprised if he told you to screw off.
I think I get an sadistic amount of enjoyment out of watching you preach about 'attitude'.
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:00:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:I think I get an sadistic amount of enjoyment out of watching you preach about 'attitude'. Which is one of the problems with your attitude.
I inspire to be as witty as you one day Andreus. Maybe one day....
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.16 19:22:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:I inspire to be as witty as you one day Andreus. Maybe one day.... You might try working that massive stick out of your behind.
Proper pose in public requires it, otherwise I might be beating a few people over the head with it instead. I usually have no need for it private though other than for pinatas.
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:46:00 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:
So, what you are saying is that the Caldari followed an emotionally driven response coming from the masses ?
It sounds a little convenient. Though it sure might have been like a godsend to the CPD. Almost coincidental. Some silly conspirationists might even point at Heth anti gallentean drivels directly followed by a suicidal Nyx pilot crashing his ship into a symbolic station.
Yes Mrs. Farel, thats what it was as far as I remember.
This is true though, it does sound convenient, but there was never any follow up from the Gallente Government on the possibility of Noir's motives as far as I can tell. There are certainly conspiracies that circulate around what happened, but I'm simply stating that in the eyes of the Caldari people and Megacorporations under the CPD (Which is most questionable) they saw it as reason enough to strike back at the Gallente. Was it right? no, I remember listening to Otro Gariushi address the nation after Heth's most famous speech about how the Gallente were to blame for the States problems.
Whatever the case, all hope for a peaceful resolution was destroyed with Gariushi-haan's death and the inflamed emotions of the people and State leadership was all that was left to burn out what was left of reason in the State. At the time, I remember being shocked and infuriated too, had I been someone else I may have supported a strike before the facts were clear.
Admittedly my response was fulled a bit by irritability, something I should try not to do again.
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.17 17:52:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Simon Louvaki wrote:Pilot Andreus has made it clear he doesn't care what anyone outside the Federation think in any case. No, I don't care what you think, because you're kind of a moron. There are people outside the Federation whose opinions I value very much - Pieter Tuulinen, Katrina Oniseki, Verin Haktain and Ava Starfire, to name but a few. Perhaps if you held any opinions worth valuing, I might feel differently about you.
At least the feeling is mutual.
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
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